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August 17

Incorrect information

There is a link on your website entitled, "Murder of Cooper Harris". This could more appropriately be titled "Death of...". Although it is public knowledge that Cooper's father was convicted of murder. We, the family and many, many others know that this was a tragic accident. The courts got it wrong.

I have long supported and contributed to Wikipedia, and do not agree that this presumption is appropriate and in keeping with accuracy and truth, should be corrected.

Thank you. Sue M Scott — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3B5D:2B20:318F:F099:3EDC:FA7C (talk) 00:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

WP:PROVEIT. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:42, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
We need more than just you saying the murder conviction is incorrect, we need independent reliable sources discussing that view on their own to mention it in the article- and even that cannot remove the use of the term murder, as he was convicted in court of murder. If he was wrongly convicted, he (or you) should seek legal counsel. 331dot (talk) 01:15, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
I would add that while your donations to the Foundation are appreciated, they have no bearing on Wikipedia content, as if they did, anyone could buy the content they wanted, or blackmail Wikipedia to preserve content.

Mr. McCall is listed as a rapist. Mr. McCall did talk about in his book raping a woman but he has never been convicted of any rape. Makes me Wanna Holler is listed twice. One entry is a good short review of the other book. The other refers to his rapist past. Calling him a rapist when he hasn't been convicted subjects you to potential litigation.

Here are the two lines in question.

Nathan McCall (born 1955) is an African-American author and rapist who grew up in the Cavalier Manor section of Portsmouth, Virginia.

In his first book, Makes Me Wanna Holler A chapter titled Trains details his rapist past.

In his first book, Makes Me Wanna Holler,[1] McCall provides a detailed story of his life and the hardships he experienced growing up with racial profiling, class differences and peer pressure.[2][3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:603:1F7F:B75E:D861:DF57:7F16:2445 (talk) 00:44, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Fixed – This material was added in last week and wasn't caugt then. If you see other such violations of our


My name is Jane Allen, I am the managing director of the International Quizzing Association which runs the annual World Quizzing Championships event. One of the people who has won the competition on numerous occasions, Pat Gibson, plays for England, but this keeps being erroneously changed to 'Ireland'. Pat was born in Ireland, but has lived for around 25 years in Wigan, England. As such, he chooses to represent England and not Ireland, as is his right.

Please can you advise on how to stop whoever it is that keeps changing his nationality to Ireland from doing this? Pat is even a member of the England team in international competitions. He does not represent Ireland.

Many thanks Jane. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:18, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Comment: I see that our article on Pat Gibson describes him as Irish, and says that he "competes as part of the England quiz team". Maproom (talk) 06:52, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
The Irish claim was made by an anon editor from Balbriggan who presumably wanted to claim Pat for Ireland. Please let us know if the false claim reappears. Dbfirs 07:49, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Jane: Very many thanks. I don't know who the anon editor might be, but he/she isn't an organiser of the event. Pat definitely represents England. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:23, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Ctrl+c / Ctrl+x jumping issue

Hi - when I'm editing content, if I cut or copy text, my cursor always jumps up to the top of the screen, meaning I have to scroll down to find where I was before. This is pretty annoying if I'm just reordering sentences or moving refs around or whatever. It only happens to me when editing Wikipedia - it doesn't seem to be something I've enabled generally on my computer, I can use word or whatever without it happening. Has anyone else experienced this, and can anyone suggest a fix? (Please ping me if you respond, my watchlist is massive) Thanks GirthSummit (blether) 06:33, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello Girth Summit. I can’t say I’ve ever experienced this, so I’m guessing it is a problem with your compiter. Maybe try doing Ctrl+c/Ctrl+x on other Wikimedia websites to see if it has and affect there? Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 09:08, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Willbb234, thanks for the suggestion. I just tried editing my user page on meta, and the problem did not occur - I can copy or cut text, and the cursor stays where I expect it to, at the point where I copied/cut. If I edit my user page (or any other page) on enWiki, even if I'm write down in the categories section, as soon as I copy/cut the cursor jumps to the top of the page.
If I remember correctly, this started happening a few months ago when I installed a bunch of scripts that were recommended to me when I started doing WP:NPP work. I wonder whether this is a known feature/bug of any script. I guess I could uninstall them all, see if it goes away, then reinstall them one by one and see whether I can find which one (or which combination of them) is causing it - I thought I'd ask here though before going through all that. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 10:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, I've been having the same problem for at least several weeks now. It's extremely frustrating. If you figure out which script is causing it, please share. Schazjmd (talk) 12:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Schazjmd, I'm glad it's not just me (while simultaneously being sorry that you're experiencing it too, it's a real pain!). I'll do some experimenting later this afternoon, and update here if I can figure it out. GirthSummit (blether) 12:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, until you brought it up, I wondered if I'd just misremembered that it had always worked that way and it didn't occur to me to try and troubleshoot it. So, I went through all of my scripts and couldn't fix the problem. Then I went to Preferences and reset to default (ouch) - bingo! No cursor jumping. Now I'll have to go through each setting to identify which one causes the jump. Schazjmd (talk) 13:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Schazjmd, ouch indeed! Thanks for letting me know, that saved me some time. I think I've found the preference setting - when I disable 'Enable the editing toolbar', in the 'Editing' tab, it stops happening. That's a bit of a pain though, because you lose access to the 'Cite' tool, which I use all the time. What to do - is this a trip to the Village Pump do you think? GirthSummit (blether) 13:40, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, hmm, I can't repro your experience. I have "Enable the editing toolbar" selected and it isn't happening. I've restored all of my settings, except "Gadgets", so I think the culprit (at least for my browser) is in there. Schazjmd (talk) 13:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Schazjmd Hmm. I wonder if it's two things combining to cause the problem. Like, if you have the editing toolbar and something else enabled, it happens, but not if you have one or the other. Is there any way for us to view each other's preferences, to compare what I've got switched on and you've got switched off? That might be easier than going through one setting at a time trying to replicate it. GirthSummit (blether) 13:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, I think you're right about two things. I just noticed that while I've been testing, I didn't have syntax highlighter turned on. As soon as I turned it on, the jumping problem came back. So now I have to start again from the beginning to figure out what script or setting is interacting with syntax highlighter to cause the problem. Schazjmd (talk) 13:50, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Schazjmd Update - good think you mentioned the browser there. I generally edit using MS Edge, but I just tried it in Chrome and it isn't happening. Maybe it is something that affects different browsers differently, which might make it more difficult to replicate. I guess I could work around it by just editing in Chrome, but I'm kind of used to the way everything looks in Edge now - Chrome just looks weird to me. GirthSummit (blether) 13:49, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, me too, I've gotten fond of Edge. So our problem is Edge + syntax highlighter + <unknown>… Schazjmd (talk) 13:51, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Or maybe not. I just removed all scripts and reset preferences to default, but as long as I have syntax highlighter activated, it jumps. I guess it's an Edge defect. Schazjmd (talk) 13:54, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Weird. I've never used Syntax Highlighter - I don't have that switched on now, and it's happening. The only way I've found so far to stop it is to lose the Editing Toolbar - which is probably too big a sacrifice to get rid of the jumping cursor. I'll keep tinkering and see whether I can find any other way of getting rid of it. GirthSummit (blether) 13:56, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Girth Summit, that's a pain. And it's weird we have the same problem but different configs. But I've figured out that I can toggle syntax highlighter off while I'm doing copy/cut editing to avoid the jump, so thanks for motivating me to look into this. Sorry that your fix is so unusable! Schazjmd (talk) 14:00, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Schazjmd Never mind, it's kind of interesting tinkering around in preferences! I've found I can fix it by disabling the 2010 editing toolbar, but enabling the 2006 one. Looks kind of retro, but I might be able to get used to it. Otherwise I could just try to get used to Chrome... Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 14:05, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── @Schazjmd: Your query about two users viewing each others preference settings is intriguing, it would be nice to have a Special page similar to Twinkle's preferences. I use that page to C/P settings between my main account and public and phone accounts, but I'm no developer, so not even sure if such a thing is possible :P - FlightTime (open channel) 14:12, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Can we trust!

I want to know that website "Knowledge @ Wharton" exist really or it is fake. Can I trust on the content provided on that website? I found some important information on that website and want it to add in one of the article. I checked about it on "WP: Reliability of Reference" but I couldn't find, this website name there. Please! anyone tell that this website exist really and can I trust fully on it's content? Thanks. (09:22, 17 August 2019 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

223, I see that you have posted a request to Jayron32's talk page. You posted it to the top of the page, where it is quite possible that Jayron32 will never notice it; you should post requests and comments to the bottom of the page, as you have done here. And your request is about a specific article, which you describe as about "Dr. Shamsheer". It would be helpful and polite if you gave a link to the article instead of expecting Jayron32 to search for it, particularly as Wikipedia has several articles about people called Shamsheer. (Maybe you mean Shamsheer Vayalil, but I can't be sure.) Maproom (talk) 10:07, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
@Maproom: Yes it certainly appears to be our perpetual requester of edits in respect of Shamsheer Vayali. See #Please response above for explanation of his 'interest'. Eagleash (talk) 12:17, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Ok! I am trying to edit myself but if something becomes disruptive, for that I'm sorry.

Thank you. ( (talk) 16:14, 17 August 2019 (UTC))

Alan Dershowitz

I noticed there is nothing in Alan Dershowitz’ biography about his recent legal issues and the page is not editable to “protect” - what exactly? To protect Alan Dershowitz? I have donated to Wikipedia in the past because I thought Wikipedia was a platform for the public and not for private protection of individuals who want to write whatever they want to write about themselves regardless of recent news. Is that no longer the case? Who is allowed to edit Wikipedia? Why is Alan Dershowitz protected? Birgitte Jensen — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Birgitte Jensen - protection is usually put on pages that attract significant amounts of vandalism, or (since this is a biography of a living person) possibly it's because a lot of people were adding unsourced controversial material. It's quite lightly protected, and most editors with established accounts can edit it - it's just very new accounts and unregistered users (who are usually the ones who vandalise pages) that can't. I can assure you that this individual has no more (or less) protection than we would give any living person. If there are specific edits you would like to be made to the article, you can put an

How can one create an article on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Makokha Thomson Otyola (talkcontribs) 11:45, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

@Makokha Thomson Otyola: I would caution you that successfully creating a new article is probably the hardest task on Wikipedia. It takes much time, effort, and practice. New users who dive right in to creating articles often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as something they worked hours on (likely without a good understanding of the process) is mercilessly edited and deleted by others. I don't want to see that happen to you. New users are much more successful at creating articles when they first spend time(weeks or even months) editing existing articles in areas that interest them, to get a feel for using Wikipedia, the editing process, and what goes into creating articles. Usually such users start with small edits like spelling fixes, move up to more substantive edits and lastly work their way into creating articles. I would suggest that you pursue such a path. You may also want to use the use the new user tutorial.
However, if you still want to attempt to create an article, you should first read

How do I post a profile on Wikipedia and how can I start a business line of writing and posting other people's profiles on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruthrence (talkcontribs) 15:24, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Short answer: you don't. Wikipedia is not social media, articles about people are only included if they are notable in WP's terms. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Also, please sign your posts with four tildes: ~~~~ Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
See also

I'm trying to fix the reference error for Zoe Telford's info box. Anyone? Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack.D.Tipper (talkcontribs) 16:50, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

I see that you've fixed it. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:36, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Jack.D.Tipper To easily fix or expand bare references, I like to use this reFill tool from wmflabs. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 18:12, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

August 18

I have added a second web site in the information box on this page - but it is all wrong. Please fix if you can Thanks (talk) 01:15, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

The website field in the infobox is for the primary website of the institution only, so I have removed the second one you tried to add. MB 02:26, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I can not edit properly on this device. please note that the word "severed" in the Community section of this page should read "severe". Thanks for correcting this error. (talk) 06:29, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done typo fix.

Does anyone know the steps I would take to uploading a crop of an original work belonging to another user (previously uploaded on the Commons) to a different destination?
To give context, there is an image of two musicians titled by only one of them. I'm only trying to have a crop of the one for a BLP I'm working on. HeyitsBen(talk) 07:11, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@HeyitsBen: The image in question is released under a license that allows derivative works, as long as they are released under the same license. You might want to ask at the commons help desk, where users will be more equipped to assist you with the practicalities of actually doing it though ~~ OxonAlex - talk 07:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

The above section states: "When a plain picture appears in text, it is aligned so that its vertical middle is roughly where the center of a lower-case "x" would be; if the image is larger than the line is tall, it sticks out both above and below." — However, the example given there uses upper-case Xs at the beginning and the end: X[[File:Flag of Hungary vertical.svg|baseline|8px|Vertical version of horizontal tricolor flag (red, white, green)]]X — How come?--Hildeoc (talk) 14:42, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

The default position is center of a lower-case x, the example given shows how to change that by using the baseline option. Maybe adding a line break in that documentation would make it more clear. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
I've changed the upper case X to lower case. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:50, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you both very much indeed! Best wishes--

My submission of an article entitled "Joseph Harriss" has been bogged down for months because a certain Lopifalko says it does not cite reliable, independent sources for comments on my four published books. On the contrary, I cite comments from the likes of The New York Times, Scientific American, Los Angeles Times, etc. I seem to sense that Lopifalko is hostile to this article, for reasons unknown. Can anyone resolve this, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordcobbler (talkcontribs) 15:55, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Seems to me that Lopifalko has been very helpful and has been guiding you in how to improve the article. Most of the cited sources don't seem to be about Harriss and there are multiple unsourced statements. We strongly encourage you not to write an autobiography, most people find it too difficult to remain neutral about things they're close to. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:05, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I was trying to edit the Labrador Retriever article, and took a long time to edit it, in part because I looked checked some references looking for a particular statement. In part because I briefly walked away from the computer, but stayed in the same room. While editing the article, I used the preview and view changes buttons several times. Finally, I clicked publish changes... and nothing happened. I tried again. Nothing. I tried again. A few seconds of waiting. Then nothing. Then I tried to preview, that worked. Tried to save, didn't work. Then I tried to view the changes, and it said there were none. Then I opened the article's history page in another tab. And found the edit I'd just made. this edit. Is this normal? It hasn't happened to me before. Also, am I asking in the right place? – Pretended leer {talk} 19:58, 18 August 2019 (UTC) By the way, it also happened while saving the question. But then I didn't click save more than once, because I realized maybe it had been saved, and then I checked. – Pretended leer {talk} 20:10, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Your request reached the server and was saved, but the server's response got stuck somewhere on the way back. It happens occasionally to me as well. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply! I guess I'll just ignore it. – Pretended leer {talk} 20:24, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Suggestions: Edit sections rather than the whole article. Break your long edits into series of small edits. Editing small has many advantages for the editor and for others who edit the article.—

To: Wikipedia August 18, 2019 Please, provide information about rules and detail description about submission of very important information for people on your website Wikipedia and person who is responsible to make a decision and who can answer question. Thank you very much in advance. Neweralife (talk) 20:17, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


I have gathered information about a reputed college in Lucknow, which I have found relevant to provide information across our nation to know about but i can see that my published information has been rejected and I dont have any clue why this information has not been accepted. I have been trying to provide more information about the different educational institutions in India. However, i would request you please guide me stepwise so that i can provide useful information to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamanauthor19 (talkcontribs) 20:25, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, just received message from CLCStudent, that my contributions to BLP

CLCSstudent deleted all of mine contributions, stated they are "not constructive" and instructed me to ask you for additional questions.

Can you, please, explain me what was the problem with my contributions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pblagojevic (talkcontribs) 22:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@Pblagojevic: Edit warring is never the right course. Be careful. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:12, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@Pblagojevic: Please read WP:BLP. We are supposed to use references for pretty much everything on Wikipedia, but we are required to be especially rigorous about this for statements about living persons. -Arch dude (talk) 23:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
The content added to Milan Jovanović (strongman) was referenced – though it was referenced by direct external links rather then by correctly formatted references. Pblagojevic, please read Help:Referencing_for_beginners. Maproom (talk) 06:43, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
By amazing coincidence, everything added to

Publishing on Wikipedia

Hi I have a draft in Sandbox and dont know how to take the next step towards publishing it on Wikipedia, the publish button is greyed out cheers KST — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kramshramtit (talkcontribs) 01:08, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Kramshramtit: Just looked at the sandbox draft and the submit button appears normal to me. However, please do not submit the draft as it is completely without references and will be rejected upon review. Please see WP:BLP for more about biographical articles and WP:REFB for a guide to adding references. WP:CITET lists templates to use when adding sources. Please also review the notability guidelines. Some useful links will be left at your talk page. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 02:22, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Kramshramtit: Furthe

r, if this is an autobiography, this is strongly discouraged. Please see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY for more information. Eagleash (talk) 02:25, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


Please let me know; I found a page where this was the case and changed it to a comma.--Thylacine24 (talk) 01:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Ummm ... yes, and also when you peter out at the end of ...

I've been an editor for a few years without a problem ever editing. For the last couple of months, every time I try to publish an edit I receive a conflict for simultaneous editing, and the page is returned to its original status. However, looking at the editing history one can see that the last two comments are mine, the last one is like the original page and the one before is like what I wanted to change. Following is the last example I suspect some setting has changed in my profile that shows me editing from two different devices, and from here the conflict. What shall I look or change to solve this problem?Gciriani (talk) 02:11, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I have a very similar problem. I have been editing Wikipedia since 2005 without technical problems. However, for the last several weeks, when I push the Publish Changes button, the edit conflict page pops up. When I look at the article's history, I see that my edit was saved. This happens most of the time, but not all the time. As best I can tell, the false edit conflict page pops up when I save immediately after making a change in the article. If I edit, then press the Preview button, then press Publish Changes (without making another edit), I get the edit saved success message. I edit Wikipedia using Google Chrome (up-to-date) running under Win 10 Pro (also up-to-date).—Finell 04:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I occasionally get the same problem, but it's when I click "Publish changes" twice (on a slow internet connection). Dbfirs 06:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Gciriani: I also get this very, very occasionally, too. I hit Publish Changes, get an edit conflict message, only to find the edit I was trying to make had just been made by me. It happens sufficiently rarely that I can't even remember if it occurs on my iPhone with Safari, or on my laptop with Chrome, or both. What I do know is that I do have a Beta Gadget enable for "Two column edit conflict". The first thing I would do is turn this off, and then maybe restore all Special:Preferences to the default settings in all sections via the big red link at the bottom of that page. I notice you also managed to post this question twice too - once here, and once at the Teahouse. May I politely remind you that it wastes volunteer effort and causes some irritation when someone posts the identical question in two help fora at once? In future, please wait at least 24 hrs before seeking input elsewhere if your question isn't answered. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 06:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I assumed that Gciriani had got an edit conflict and not realised that the question had actually been posted, so re-posted as an IP. If the problem occurs only when logged in, then it must be some setting, as you suggest. Dbfirs 07:02, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
This problem has been reported previously. It happens pretty frequently for me (working on a laptop, using Chrome). I've checked that it still happens if the "Two column edit conflict" gadget is turned off. Others have suggested that it is when the publish button is pressed twice, but I do not believe that this is the case. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I note a question

In the further reading section with the magazine "Majesty' - I added in this website - It is all wrong. Please fix Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 03:03, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Fixed You put 'url:=' instead of 'url='.

I've noticed that my user name is highlighted in red "Wikiwicker" and there seems to be some question as to whether I really exist or not. I don't have a "user page" so does that mean my user name will be removed? Thanks, Ray Murray "Wikiwicker" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiwicker (talkcontribs) 05:31, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Wikiwicker: As the username in signutures etc links to the user page, if you don't have a user page it will show as a red link, as with any link to a non existant page. There is no requirement to have a user page, and you definitely exist. If it bothers you, there's ways to change signature colour - see Wikipedia:Signature tutorial ~~ OxonAlex - talk 06:29, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Why not just write a sentence, or the word "Welcome" on your user page? ... or redirect it to your talk page?

Hello, I would like to request review of an audio clip to see if it is okay for use in Wikipedia. Is there a good place I can ask about this? I have made several requests and posts on Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions, as well as asking a Wikipedia administrator, as well as two requested peer reviews. Unfortunately I haven't been able to interest anyone in taking a look. What should I try next?

I have been working on The Phenomenauts. I am trying to raise it for eventual sumission for GA status. I originally uploaded four audio clips, based on my understanding of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Music_samples. These were deleted for being non-free content, which is true; they were. I have done a lot of reading of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Music_samples, WP:NFC, and and WP:NFCC to better understand Wikipedia norms and how to handle this. I then created a post on the article Talk page outlining a case for why I believe inclusion of a single, short audio clip would be appropriate.

The other events then were:

The original administrator appears to be quite busy, and I don't want to bother them if they don't have time to discuss it. But I would love some feedback on whether my edits are on the right track, and this is an appropriate case/argument for including a single audio clip.

What is the best next step to request someone taking a look? Thanks for your time. --Culix (talk) 05:45, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


Adult of an undescribed Iphierga species Psychidae Iphierga Iphierga chrysophaes Turner, 1917 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valeriefarias (talkcontribs) 09:07, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to Wikipedia. If there is a question you would like to ask, please do so. Please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: Button sig.png, but do not sign in articles. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 09:27, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


It seems I can't publish an English from Danish translation I made for 'Abelstedt' (

How will this translation be able to be published?

Best regards, Oliver — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ojcapital (talkcontribs) 10:40, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

In this edit I have added a template to give you a button to submit the draft for review, & also removed your draft from article categories (see WP:DRAFTNOCAT). If you translated from a Danish Wikipedia article you need to provide attribution, as required by WP:TFOLWP. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I now see that you did provide an attribution in the edit summary, but you may wish to supplement it in the talk page as suggested. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:53, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
User:Ojcapital, I hope you don't mind that I have tweaked the grammar a bit. TSventon (talk) 11:58, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! - Ojcapital (talk) 14:47, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Ojcapital: I see that all your edits on English and Danish Wikipedia relate to Abelstedt. Please can you confirm if you have a conflict of interest (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest) and if you have been paid to edit the articles (see Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure). TSventon (talk) 12:14, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@TSventon: I can confirm that neither is the case. I recently created my account and this was my first contribution. - Ojcapital (talk) 14:47, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
User:Ojcapital, thanks for the confirmation. TSventon (talk) 08:03, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
You should't have submitted the draft for review until you'd sorted out the multiple errors in the referencing. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:15, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the notice David. However, I was quite sure that these referencing errors were not there until the draft got moved. It might have been a miss. -

I can't linked both pages together: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamwi2000 (talkcontribs) 11:07, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done, you can link together by clicking on "Add links" under the "Languages" section in the sidebar. –

Hello friends. The English article is Blaubeuren Abbey. The German article is Kloster Blaubeuren. But if you click on "Deutsch" in the Languages sidebar of Blaubeuren Abbey, the link is going to Blaubeuren. How do I make it go to the correct place? Thank you. (talk) 14:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Fixed, an interwiki link had been placed on the English Wikipedia article, now it is through Wikidata. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:09, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. Can you explain how you did it so I can fix it myself another time? (talk) 15:19, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
This table is a great help Help:Interwiki linking#Project titles and shortcuts - FlightTime (open channel) 15:29, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
The article had [[de:Blaubeuren]] at the bottom, that is the old way of connecting together articles in different languages. Now we try to keep everything linked together on Wikidata, you can get to it by clicking "Add links" under the language sidebar. The old way can still be used to overwrite the Wikidata connection or to link to a related topic if the different languages don't have quite the same scope. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Terrific to know, thank you both!

ClueBot III has archived request not yet completed on Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop.

The undone request will be completed anyway or it is necessary to request again? -- (talk) 16:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Moved from Misc reference desk ~~ OxonAlex - talk 16:06, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

It's unlikely for someone to be searching the archives looking of uncompleted requests. So you can unarchive the request in cases like this. –

I would like to undo my thanks. I read WP:THANKS but I couldn't find anything that says how to do it. Unless I missed it on that page, can you show me how to do that and ping me when you answer? Interstellarity (talk) 16:24, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't think a thanks can be undone. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:25, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@FlightTime: I don't quite understand your answer. Could you rephrase it for me and ping me when you do that please? Interstellarity (talk) 16:31, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Interstellarity: - FlightTime (open channel) 16:35, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

How come in transclusions such as at Smallville, there is a large whitespace rendered above the table footnotes (in the given instance beginning with "The full title [...]")? How can that be fixed?--Hildeoc (talk) 16:45, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I've removed the spacing below each table. Does it look OK now? –

Hello. Recently I made a change in one of articles in Wikipedia. After about 90 minutes a received a massage from a user of Wikipedia in which he told me that he had deleted what I typed because I didn’t include a reliable source. I am sure that information I provided is right, and, in my opinion, there is a reason to include that information to that article and I don’t think it is necessary to include a reliable source every time. So, I just want you to answer a question for me. If I had created completely new article it would not have been necessary to get a permission from somebody (maybe from an article’s author) to make some changes in this article in the future? By the way, if an author wrote that article himself, he would just have to understand basic things in the topic, since a source isn’t needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petro Sapriianchuk (talkcontribs) 20:12, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Petro Sapriianchuk: Information in Wikipedia must be sourced to a reliable source. This is so readers can verify the information if they desire. Verifiability is an important principle of Wikipedia. That you believe the information to be correct is irrelevant; we need to know where it came from. You don't need permission to create an article or make an edit, but if challenged on it, it is up to you to discuss the matter and justify what it is that you want to do, see WP:BRD for more information. 331dot (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Petro Sapriianchuk: once an article exists, it no longer has "an author". The person who created the article has no more rights or responsibilities for the article than does anyone else. This also true for any edit by any editor: we all have the same right and responsibilities, except for edits who are WP:PAID or have a WP:COI with respect to the article: those editors have fewer rights than the rest of us. -Arch dude (talk) 20:30, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Henry Oberlander went live over one month ago but is not showing as any hit on Google search. Does anyone know how this works and how long it would take to appear? There are under 3000 hits for this major personality, on Google, so the article does not exactly have a lot of competition. Any thoughts welcome. Many thanks Anna (talk) 22:00, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

It still has noindex as a new article. See Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing#Indexing of articles ("mainspace"). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:06, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Can I ask for it to be indexed? Anna (talk) 00:36, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
No need to ask, there are thousand articles also waiting to be reviewed. It'll eventually be reviewed/indexed. –

Request to Edit Article


I am one of the administrators of Holy Angels' College (Bulacan), and I would like to seek help in editing the Heading for, it should be named as Holy Angels' College (Bulacan). The school is presently known by this name since it was re-incorporated in 2001.

Thank you

Jeffrey Ian G. Esperanza System Administrator Holy Angels' College (Bulacan) Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esperanzaji (talkcontribs) 01:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)


Articles are locked to “prevent vandalism” yet they are factually incorrect. How can someone request to get these articles corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:04, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Via edit requests - FlightTime (open channel) 03:09, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia article on facism cites “radical right-wing authoritarian....” in the first sentence. However, websters dictionary has the correct definition of facism-“severe social and economic regiment and also forcible suppression of opposition.” The defintion of facism should be exactly as cited in websters dictionary and should not incorrectly label facism as right wing. when those two traits of economic regiment and suppression of opposition are characteristics of the left-wing. It is innacurate and clearly politically biased to label facism “right-wing”. It is exclusively of the left. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:17, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

This has been extensively discussed in the past. See the article talk page for more information. Eagleash (talk) 03:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not Websters. Other dictionaries give more nuanced definitions.

All the articles I have written have been hidden from Google search engines. what is the reason Akram.altameemi (talk) 09:06, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Akram.altameemi: Articles are not indexed by search engines for 90 days or until they have been reviewed. You have asked similar questions on previous occasions and it has been pointed out to you that articles you have written do not meet guidelines. Advice has been given to help you reach the standards required but this has not happened. Eagleash (talk) 09:11, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

You have made all the information and resources available in all articles. All the articles appeared on Google and days later disappeared. There was nothing about your belief that there were articles about football players.Akram.altameemi (talk) 09:18, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

You have written at least three articles about football players. The Iraq Premier League is not a fully professional league per Wikipedia's criteria; see

I have come across an article that I consider to be biased. I was about to edit it, but editing is locked. I have gone on to the talk: for that article and found others feel the same, but the article has not been edited to be more factual. What to do? TIA — Preceding unsigned comment added by WildLovelyOne (talkcontribs) 10:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@WildLovelyOne: please could you direct us to the article in question? Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 11:00, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
The general answer is in a thread above entitled

Hi there. I was copyediting an article and I came across a list of cities that were not wikilinked. To link them all might not agree with MOS:SEAOFBLUE, so I was wondering what others thought? Quote in question:’they would then be distributed to cities like Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Tampa, Nashville, Atlanta, Greensboro, and New York City.’ Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 10:55, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

MOS:OL states that cities generally shouldn’t be linked, but in the context, I think it would be useful for the reader to see the locations of each of the cities. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 10:58, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

"Generally" means in most situations but not all. If you believe the names are better linked then ignore the guideline and do so. If someone reverts you, then you should discuss why the names should be linked/or remain unlinked.–

Dear Wikipedia Team (Yunshui)

My Name id Hesham Daabes, Chief Information Officer (CIO) of Banque du Caire, Cairo, Egypt. The bank's Marketing, Customer Relations and Technology teams are trying to edit/update the current Bank's profile page on Wikipedia with no success. In every update instance, the changes are rejected and reverted back to the original information which is quite outdated and completely irrelevant to the bank. It is unclear to us "Why" this is the case and we have no luck connecting with your support teams to understand the issue. I hereby urge you to consider my request in allowing us changing the Bank's profile on Wikipedia. Please let me know if our attempts are done wrongly by any means and/or provide us with some guidance on how we can achieve this task successfully. The issue is now fairly sensitive to our organisation and critical to our brand image and authenticity of our profile. I am happy to hear back any suggestions.

Appreciate you prompt response to my request.

Best Regards Hesham Daabes Chief Information Officer Banque du Caire HQ Nasr City, Cairo Egypt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daabesh (talkcontribs) 16:20, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

You are advised to read both WP:COI and WP:PAID. It is strongly encouraged that editors with a conflict of intrest do not edit articles connected to themselves, instead posting edit requests on the article's talk page. This is because wikipedia exists to record what reliable sources say about a topic, which typically conflicts with what a marketing department would say about a topic. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 18:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

I was editing the page for the Dresden Files novel Skin Game.

When I clicked to Save my edits, I got a notice of an edit-conflict, where someone else had edited while I was editing, warning me to merge the edits; this is deeper into the bowels of wiki-edits than I'm comfortable doing! I wasn't even clear what the other edits are/were.

What I meant to do -- what I tried to do -- was copy my edits off to a local clipboard, Cancel out of editing, then come back in a few minutes and re-do them.

But when I went to look... behold! My edits were in place. Even though I clicked "Cancel." And when I "View History" -- mine was the only entry for days.

I have no idea how to find that other change, or (re-)implement it, or... well, fix it. Or did it automagically fix -- no thanks to me! -- and I'm obsessing about nothing? 2601:645:501:DB74:5438:AB54:3018:9462 (talk) 17:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that kind of edit conflict, where your edits are accepted but you get an edit-conflict message anyway, has become fairly common recently – maybe that last two months. I've never seen a convincing explanation of what causes it, or of how to avoid it. Maproom (talk) 17:37, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
I've had this happen when I've accidentally pressed "save changed" twice, and the server thought I was trying to edit conflict myself. That's the only explanation I've seen. Best Wishes,

I want to describe the superlative form of attorney which is attornist which means (Attorney in a Professional way) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Attornist (talkcontribs) 21:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Attornist: That may not be a good fit for Wikipedia, since this is an encyclopedia. Look at the dictionary project instead: [2] RudolfRed (talk) 21:43, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to be covered in the Manual of Style section on redundant links (no offense to whoever wrote it), so please let me know.--Thylacine24 (talk) 22:36, 20 August 2019 (UTC)


Hi there,

Could you please assist with uploading images to a wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanishalafitani (talkcontribs) 01:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)


Hi there, I want to know why my page production, cost and pricing was deleted? I chose this topic from the list of Most Wanted Articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omer Canon (talkcontribs) 04:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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